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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points:

&quot;Do we trust that the government will do well by us?&quot;
No, not really. Everything the government does is backed up by the threat of coercive force. When writing the constitution, the founding fathers put in a system of checks and balances to limit the power the government had over the people. From their perspective they were protecting themselves against a possible tyrant. When you ask, &quot;Should the government do something?&quot; the question you really need to ask is, &quot;Is it worth jailing someone over this?  Is it worth killing someone over this?&quot;

&quot;A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.&quot; -Gerald Ford

&quot;Nobody (at least, nobody who’s actually lived there) is seriously arguing that places like Canada and the UK have bad health care.&quot; 
Mark Steyn is doing just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points:</p>
<p>&#8220;Do we trust that the government will do well by us?&#8221;<br />
No, not really. Everything the government does is backed up by the threat of coercive force. When writing the constitution, the founding fathers put in a system of checks and balances to limit the power the government had over the people. From their perspective they were protecting themselves against a possible tyrant. When you ask, &#8220;Should the government do something?&#8221; the question you really need to ask is, &#8220;Is it worth jailing someone over this?  Is it worth killing someone over this?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.&#8221; -Gerald Ford</p>
<p>&#8220;Nobody (at least, nobody who’s actually lived there) is seriously arguing that places like Canada and the UK have bad health care.&#8221;<br />
Mark Steyn is doing just that.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksmith</title>
		<link>http://www.roguelazer.com/politics/2009/09/trust-government-and-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential - By jacksmith — Working Class

Robert Reich explains the pubic option:  http://bit.ly/dDYSJ  http://robertreich.blogspot.com/

It&#039;s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.

It&#039;s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!

It&#039;s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.

It&#039;s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

It&#039;s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don&#039;t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!

It&#039;s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It&#039;s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.

THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:

The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.

At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!

But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.

This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. NO INDIVIDUAL MANDATES! without a Strong public option on day one.

To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time...is...UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op&#039;s! No Triggers!

Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.

BUT WE MUST ACT!

I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.

SPREAD THE WORD!

I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.

Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.

God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings

jacksmith — Working Class

No Triggers! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html

Triggers http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html

Krugman on heathcare  (http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/)

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&amp;feature=player_embedded)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why A Strong Public Option Is Essential &#8211; By jacksmith — Working Class</p>
<p>Robert Reich explains the pubic option:  <a href="http://bit.ly/dDYSJ" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bit.ly/dDYSJ?referer=');">http://bit.ly/dDYSJ</a>  <a href="http://robertreich.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/robertreich.blogspot.com/?referer=');">http://robertreich.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because more than two thirds of the American people want a single payer health care system. And if they cant have a single payer system 77% of all Americans want a strong government-run public option on day one (86% of democrats, 75% of independents, and 72% republicans). Basically everyone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because according to a new AARP POLL: 86 percent of seniors want universal healthcare security for All, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of Republicans. With 79% of seniors supporting creating a new strong Government-run public option plan, available immediately. Including 89% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, and 61% of Republicans, STUNNING!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because it will lower cost. Because a strong public option will dramatically lower cost for everyone. And dramatically improved the quality of care everyone receives in America and around the World. Rich, middle class, and poor a like.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because it will save trillions of dollars and prevent the needless deaths of millions more of YOU, caused by a rush to profit by the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because every expert in every field, including economist, and Nobel laureates all agree that free market based healthcare systems don&#8217;t work. Never have and never will. The US has the only truly free market based healthcare system in the World. And as you all know now, IT IS A DISASTER!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just because providing or denying medically necessary care for profit motivations is wrong. Because it is WRONG! It&#8217;s professionally, ethically, and morally REPUGNANT!, Animalistic, VILE and EVIL.</p>
<p>THE REASON THE PUBLIC OPTION IS ESSENTIAL:</p>
<p>The public option is ESSENTIAL because over 200 million of you are trapped in the forest of the wolves. Which is the forest of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! With no way out except through needless inhumane suffering, and DEATH. While the wolves tear at your flesh, and rip you limb from lib. Then feast on your lifeless bodies like a dead carcase for transplant parts.</p>
<p>At the most vulnerable times of your lives (when you were sick and hurting), millions of you have had to fight and loose cruel, but heroic battles. Fighting against the big guns of the DISGRACEFUL, GREED DRIVEN, PRIVATE FOR PROFIT MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX! in the forest of the wolves. All because you have no place else to go. You have no other CHOICE!</p>
<p>But the PUBLIC OPTION will give you someplace safe to go. And it will give us someplace safe to take you. The public option will be your refugium (your refuge). Where the wolves cannot get at you when your down, hurting, and vulnerable. Where everyone who needs it can find rest, security, comfort and the care they need. Protected by the BIG GUNS of We The People Of The United States. THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE AND COUNTRY ON EARTH.</p>
<p>This is why it is so critical that we do not lead another 50 million vulnerable, uninsured Americans into the forest of the wolves, without the protections of a Strong Government-run public option. We The People Of The United States MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN to any more of our fellow Americans. If healthcare reform does not contain a strong public option on day one. YOU MUST! KILL IT. Or you will do far more harm than good. And millions more will die needlessly. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. NO INDIVIDUAL MANDATES! without a Strong public option on day one.</p>
<p>To those who would continue to obstruct good and true healthcare reform for the American people, and who seek to trap millions more vulnerable Americans in the forest of the wolves. We will continue to fight you. We are prepared to wage all out war against you, and will eagerly DESTROY! you. Time&#8230;is&#8230;UP! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! No Co-op&#8217;s! No Triggers!</p>
<p>Healthcare reform can be the GREATEST! Accomplishment of our time and century. A time when future generations may say of us, that we were all, AMERICAS GREATEST GENERATIONS.</p>
<p>BUT WE MUST ACT!</p>
<p>I therefore call on all my fellow Americans and the peoples of the World. To join us in this fight so that we may finish becoming the better America that we aspire to be for everyone.</p>
<p>SPREAD THE WORD!</p>
<p>I have been privileged to be witness as many of you fought, and struggled to take your first breath, and your last breath on this earth. Rich, middle class, and poor a like. Life is precious.</p>
<p>Whatever the cost. WE! MUST SUCCEED.</p>
<p>God Bless You My Fellow Human Beings</p>
<p>jacksmith — Working Class</p>
<p>No Triggers! <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html?referer=');">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-rosenbaum/a-trigger-for-the-public_b_277910.html</a></p>
<p>Triggers <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html?referer=');">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/weve-seen-these-triggers_b_283583.html</a></p>
<p>Krugman on heathcare  (<a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/?referer=');">http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/why-markets-cant-cure-healthcare/</a>)</p>
<p>Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk_amp_feature=player_embedded&amp;referer=');">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&amp;feature=player_embedded</a>)</p>
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